What I like about the NSM is they are organized. And hopefully the organization is set up so the ranks and the officers can be expanded as well.

I personally think the uniforms are a bad idea(I like the look of those Swedish nationalists more).. However part of being organized is accepting the wisdom of those above you.. And one day you work up the ranks if you are intelligent and dedicated. Then you are the one deciding those things.. And probably the lower people think some of your decisions are stupid:)>.

However a group definately needs uniforms, signifying rank, and discipline. With badges and medals for achievement. The NSM is bringing those ideas which are desperately needed.

Brutus, it think you are starting to catch on.

Die Engländer behaupten, das Deutsche Volk hat sein Vertrauen zum Führer verloren.

Ich frage euch: Ist euer Vertrauen zum Führer heute größer, gläubiger und unerschütterlicher denn je?

Ist eure Bereitschaft, ihm auf allen seinen Wegen zu folgen und alles zu tun, was nötig ist, um den Krieg zum siegreichen Ende zu führen, eine absolute und uneingeschränkte?

National Socialism is the one White Racialist movement that, adapted, could gain mass White support. The Jews and their pet degenerates have spent 60 years heavily brainwashing Whites that N.S. is the Worst Thing in the World, the one unforgivable sin, that Hitler was the absolute incarnation of evil, that National Socialists are the most extreme of the extreme, etc. They have made a rod for their own backs.

The masses can not tell the difference between evil and good. They are eternally feminine. 'Evil' and 'Good' as concepts do not exist to them. The only thing that they understand is FORCE. They just want to be dominated and abused, and whoever is strongest gets the prize. Yes, now they hate National Socialism with all their might by golly, and they believe that it is 'evil', but once it has become stronger and the Jews weaker, they will immediately and shamelessly flick over to supporting it and hating the Jews with all their hearts, and they will kiss the feet of the men they earlier spat on.

What a good job the mass-media bosses have done. They have ensured that in the minds of the masses National Socialism stands for complete intolerance, fanaticism, zero compromise. It is masculinity. It is discipline. It is force and youth and energy. It is as blunt as a hammer. It stands for naked force and raw aggression and WILLPOWER. In this degenerate, dissimulating, compromising age the masses ache for this like a woman aches for a big, hard cock. Certainly they oppose National Socialism, like a woman 'opposes' men who make advances to her, but the fact is, National Socialism is sexy. It is exciting to the masses.

One thing that N.S. is remarkable for is its lack of sophistry and dissimulation. As I said, it is a wholly masculine ideology. There is nothing difficult to understand about it. National Socialism is completely free of hypocrisy, or irony, or cynicism, or double-talk or pseudo-intellectual word games. One does not have to be rich or clever to understand it. All that the average man or woman has to do is to see the stark symbol of the swastika to understand who is standing there and what he stands for.

National Socialism is not a class or interest group movement, it stands for the whole people, and each man in his place.

Also the swastika has been so loaded with meaning that the Left, and especially the Jews, simply can not cope with it. For the kikes and all of the homosexuals and feminists and race-mixers and suicide morality Christians, in one small symbol it represents the annihiliation of everything that they stand for. Lies, compromise, weakness, cowardice, degeneracy, decadence etc. When confronted with it they become hysterical with emotion, even the few who manage to remain calm on the outside. It drives them into a frenzy of masochistic pleasure, to be here confronted and dominated by the one thing that they hate so much. It is the moment of their total submission, the big, strong, handsome man slapping the woman across the face and throwing her onto the bed, the secret purpose of all of her insane destructive activity so far, to provoke the man and see if he is strong enough to win her and force his will upon her.

I find it very sexual. As conditions continue to deteriorate in the West, only National Socialism, of White Racialist movements, has the shock value necessary to finally wake up the few healthy elements of the race left and to convince them to resist. Then the filthy Jews and all of the black brown and yellow mud men will cringe in fear and start running for their lives.
Sieg Heil!

RP: I don't think it's important just WHO has the authority to change the uniform of the NSM.

On the contrary - it's very important. By gaining an answer to this question, one could determine if the NSM genuinely has a real leader, or if they are basically governed by mob rule. It would appear that the latter is true, since "Von Bluvens" has failed to offer an answer in regard to a simple question. That smacks of evasiveness, the same trademarked tactic of the now defunct National Alliance.

Again, I'm not advocating that the NSM should change their uniform, but WHO within their organization actually has the power to do so, should such a change ever be desired. Sidetracking the issue with, "Oh, but changing the uniform would cause massive defections from the NSM!" is irrelevant to the question.

Therefore, I'm not concerned with the effect such a uniform change would engender, but if there is anyone within the NSM who actually has the power to make such a change? Whoever that person is would clarify once and for all WHO is actually responsible for maintaining the use of 1930's Nazi costumes. SOMEONE has to be. But why this person/persons is kept secret smacks too much of the now defunct National Alliance's tendency to collect dues from its drone-like members, while at the same time refusing to provide simple answers to simple questions.

Yes, the NSM is becoming more impressive and at a rapid rate. This makes it a perfect time to ditch the old Nazi costumes, relics of the past that they are, and adopt new uniforms and symbols to represent 21st century racialism in America.

I think the Celtic cross at the center of a flag with two stripes to the side would be a pretty effective symbol.

Like this:
http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/racist_celtic_cross.asp

Yes. I think a uniform is fine, but it needs to be 21st century. I like the Swedish WN uniforms -- black shirt, kacky pants, black boots. Looks sharp. A sharp uniform makes young men want to join up to wear it -- and WN girls like a man in a sharp uniform. In fact, since the girls go where the guys are -- a sharp uniform may begin to awaken young White women. And that would be a very good development.

That uniform change definitely needs to be made -- now that the NSM is growing. It will help them grow even faster.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=20062&highlight=uniforms

Yes. I think a uniform is fine, but it needs to be 21st century. I like the Swedish WN uniforms -- black shirt, kacky pants, black boots. Looks sharp. A sharp uniform makes young men want to join up to wear it -- and WN girls like a man in a sharp uniform. In fact, since the girls go where the guys are -- a sharp uniform may begin to awaken young White women. And that would be a very good development.

That uniform change definitely needs to be made -- now that the NSM is growing. It will help them grow even faster.

Take a look.

From top to bottom it is filled with intellectual, emotional and mental defectives. How can anything be sustaining with these freaks among the ranks?

Don't be a hater you old fart!!!!!

NSM RECRUITMENT THREAD:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=387299

we're #1 lol sieg heiiil, we're#1 lol heil hitler, we're the fastest growing nazi party AND WE HAVE AWESOME UNIFORMS lol hail victorrry

The uniforms are not going to change. Simple as that. And the NSM isn't going to stop growing

Sorry to hear that. The NSM WILL stop growing in a couple of years because all of the retards in the movement will already be signed up. It will be your leaderships fault that you stop growing for several reasons. If they don't care to lead in an intelligent manner then so be it. If the NSM is the "largest Nazi party in America" then be responsible and use the momentum intelligently. Lose the fucking gay uniforms!

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=20062&highlight=uniforms Take a look.

Notice the use of Swedish flags. A MUCH better idea than Nazi flags -- which play into jew anti-Nazi propaganda. Use American flags -- that will attract the mainstream Whites -- who really do WANT an effective White group to join, but avoid like the plague the jew-created stigma that the Nazi uniform and flag have.

I think this change must be made and soon -- now that the momentum is increasing.

Comrades the time to join NSM is now! They are out there in the streets fighting for the White race. You say you don't like uniforms? Well you already have one, the color of your skin. The "suits & ties" or "street clothes" look does not matter. Once you hit the streets our enemies will attack you. The police are indifferent towards you. If one of their pets gets roughed up, that's a "Hate Crime". If you do, well it's too bad "you went looking for trouble and found it". Ian Stuart was right about the police.:box:

RE: VONBLUVENS

Brutus, I think you are starting to catch on.

When I first heard about you guys, I was neutral, only because the NSM names the jew. I thought that the uniforms were a bad idea. Basically for the same reasons that many here have stated.

However, that thinking on my part has changed. I have been won-over by actions, the positive actions of the NSM and not by any so-called WN blowhard spouting pro-White rhetoric. We have enough blowhards in this struggle and not enough men with balls who are willing to let their boots do the talking. The NSM is turning that around!

The magic is in the streets. This is why the jew held that costly counter rally in Lansing. They will do anything to keep the people from hearing your message. They will slop the hogs with free expensive food and free rock concerts all at public expense in a pitiful attempt to shield the masses from the truth. That in itself speaks volumes.

The NSM is on the right course and I will continue to be an out-spoken advocate for what I see is a winning team!

Greetings to all NS Comrades, WN, KKK, Hammerhead Skins, WCOTC, and others who fight OUR fight:

This May Day, the day the reds' mestizo hordes are marching in millions around the USA, on this day I feel real and genuine hope for our race, and our Movement.

On this day I saw the lemmings begin to stir.
On this day I heard their fear and their anger.
On this day I knew we have a chance.

INSTANT LEAFLETS should be passed out, if possible, anywhere these rallies have taken place, only in White working class neighborhoods. Let the upper middle classes stew a while longer.

What will win it? Halfhearted measures, designed to not offend the yuppies?
No, half-measures never win, concern for offending is not the mark of the Movement that will defend the race.

For well over 70 years the jew has repeatedly propagandized our people with hatred of National Socialism and the swastika.

Over 35 years ago William Pierce expressed his reservations about uniforms and the use of the swastika. The very same arguments that we hear today with the oft times vicious defamation of the NSM for its adherence to the IMAGE of the NS man and woman.

Well, Bill Pierce had some 35 years of doing it his way, and he had the advantages of the internet and radio. At its height his organization had 1,500.
I personally liked, very much, William Pierce, he was a good man, we miss him, greatly. However William Pierce was no Lincoln Rockwell.

Today the NSM with a leadership that is not one that I have great appreciation for, not one that approaches the capabilities of those gone and some of those still around, yet today the NSM by its use of the uniform and the Sacred Symbol of our Aryan race, has taken center stage in our struggle. Despite complete and utter backstabbing by the other WN organizations, with the EXCEPTION of Alex Linder, who, in my opinion, has been the noble Aryan, in allowing and permitting the advertisement of NSM on this forum and has hastened its growth more than any NSM leader dares to admit, this NSM group has been growing, by leaps and by bounds.

I ask those who feel as Pierce did about uniforms and the swastika to do as WLP did and start your own groups ready to fight and die on the streets confronting the brown, black, yellow and jew hordes, wearing whatever you feel is the best.

I wish you well.

However the salvation of our race will lie in the hands of National Socialists.
NS will wave the blood-soaked banner of our volk.
NS will be IMMEDIATELY recognizable to the White masses by their uniforms as well as the Swastika.
The lemmings are SCARED, they are looking for a Savior.
He is coming, perhaps NSM will be his vehicle.

[color="Red"]IN HOC SIGNO VINCES!

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I like those uniforms better, but the thing is, that they don’t have the desired shock effect that gets all that kike media attention.

The lemmings are SCARED, they are looking for a Savior.
He is coming, perhaps NSM will be his vehicle.

DUH, he is already here.

Our savior, Fuhrer Commander, Jeff Schoep.

The NSM produces only the top notch leaders.

HAIL VICTORY!

p.s. - Don't bring up his niggerish criminal record when he stole $4,000 worth of computer equipment please, he is still a NATIONAL SOCIALIST MARTYR for the WHITE RACE.

Sieg Heil...